Pat was bar manager of 'Bar 10' at the Alexandra Palace beer festival in 1979 which was held in huge marquees after the palace itself had been set alight by a careless workman's discarded cigarette.
I was one of the (two) assistant barmen at the time and remember such things as being interviewed by a TV crew (& later turning up on TV in Hong Kong where a friend of mine in the Royal Navy had seen me) and introducing a new beer called 'Woggles, Boy Scout Bitter'. This wasn't officially listed but we needed to get rid of some awful beer which wasn't selling. All highly illegal now but a bit of fun back then (remember when we could all have fun without the Health & Safety nazis or the PC crowd??)
The last I heard - and indeed saw - was that they lived in Hertford, right by the canal but I haven't seen either of them for many years now although I have seen Les's name appear on some CamRA (Campaign for Real Ale) articles.